1080p vs 720p Shootout - They look the same! - Page 17

No1Mugster · 02-25-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pparks1

Well, certain people do feel that way. It's rather surprising that so many hardcore AV enthusiasts don't feel that the difference is even noticeable. My personal opinion is that 1080p is marketing hype and that properly calibrated displays showing identical played back at 1080p look the same from a reasonable viewing difference at 720p or 1080p.

Deathwish wasn't giving you a hard time.....but many come out here and just throw around statements like "of course it's better, the number is higher, it has to be better"...but have no actual knowledge, experience or factual evidence to back them up.

In your defense, what steps did you take on both the 32" and the 40" to ensure that both were properly calibrated?

I've never calibrated any of them, what do you recommend?

LilJayV10 · 02-25-2009, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by No1Mugster

I've never calibrated any of them, what do you recommend?

Kinda hard to say one's better than the other then.

You can either have the sets professionally calibrated by an ISF tech or you can buy a calibration disc like DVE.

Some say the professional way is better than the DVE but some do not.

Deathwish238 · 02-25-2009, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by No1Mugster

No the 720p is a 32" and the 1080p is 40" but they are both Samsungs.

Just because they're both Samsungs does not mean they're equal. Are they from the same line?

Also, a 40" LCD is going to inherently have a better picture than a 32" LCD because it will almost always have better black levels. So comparing a 32" and 40" 1080p Samsung LCD would probably leave most thinking the 40" looks better.

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Originally Posted by No1Mugster

WTF does it matter I'm telling you the 1080p looks better. This thread is lame as fuck anyway asking a question like whats better 720p or 1080p. Fucking no-brainer if you ask me.

Um...read the first post. Obviously you have not. Your thinking is the ENTIRE point of this thread, that you're mistaken.

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Originally Posted by Jamie

My parents just got Sky HD and I can barely tell the difference between SD and HD channels on a 42" Sharp Aquos Lcd screen. It is slightly crisper, and the colours are better, but only if you squint, and I went to the opticians Monday afternoon just gone and they said my vision is near perfect (apart from being long sighted slightly in one eye).

High definition is way overrated, it is a worthy leap between 480i and 720p due to the difference actually being noticeable on videogames at least for me, (not so much TV channels), but from 720p to 1080p I cannot tell the difference, honestly.

Really? There's a HUGE difference in pq between my SD and HDTV channels. Perhaps your HD channels are not actually playing HD content? Watching Heroes for example in HD looks drastically better. Clearer, more detail, more vibrant. It looks better than SDTV by far and a good deal better than Divx as well.

Deathwish238 · 02-25-2009, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by No1Mugster

I've never calibrated any of them, what do you recommend?

The cheapest way is with a calibration DVD like DVE. It'll run you less than $20 and it works on all HDTVs.

The best way is by an ISF or a THX certified calibrator. Of course that costs $300-$500.

LilJayV10 · 02-25-2009, 04:57 AM

I think I might actually be dumber from some of the last posts I just read....

Meintz · 02-25-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

My parents just got Sky HD and I can barely tell the difference between SD and HD channels on a 42" Sharp Aquos Lcd screen. It is slightly crisper, and the colours are better, but only if you squint, and I went to the opticians Monday afternoon just gone and they said my vision is near perfect (apart from being long sighted slightly in one eye).

High definition is way overrated, it is a worthy leap between 480i and 720p due to the difference actually being noticeable on videogames at least for me, (not so much TV channels), but from 720p to 1080p I cannot tell the difference, honestly.

i agree that there isnt enough difference between 720 and 1080 for the amount of cash you have to pay. but there should be a massive difference between your sd and hd. when i watch the sd channels its like watching a vhs tape compared to my hd channels. it also makes a massive difference on games.

from the research iv looked at almost all the pros agreed that at average sitting distance you cant tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on most screens. unless you have a projector or something that is 100in. thats when you will notice a difference in your pq from the additional pixels. mostly just depends on wether you have a good quality tv, 720p or 1080p. iv seen 1080's that dont look nearly as good as some of the better 720's.

Chris_G · 03-21-2009, 09:45 PM

1280 x 720 x 30hz = 27648000

1920 x 1080 x 30hz = 62208000 <---- Better resolution

Math doesn't lie.

**Arisen Dragon** · 03-21-2009, 09:54 PM

Is there anyways to fix an overscan on component cables. I have my 360 hooked up to my samsung 19inch HDTV and it overscans a little on component. Anyways to fix that cause on hdmi for my ps3 its fine. Oh btw I have it set at 720P

Deathwish238 · 03-22-2009, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris_G

1280 x 720 x 30hz = 27648000

1920 x 1080 x 30hz = 62208000 <---- Better resolution

Math doesn't lie.

Sure, but that doesn't say that a quality 720p HDTV can't take a 1080p signal, downscale it and display it without losing a noticeable amount of picture quality.

That's the whole point of this thread, a good 720p HDTV can look just as good as a 1080p HDTV. The fact that a TV might be 1080p does in no way mean that it will have more detail, a sharper picture or really anything.

pparks1 · 03-22-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris_G

1280 x 720 x 30hz = 27648000

1920 x 1080 x 30hz = 62208000 <---- Better resolution

Math doesn't lie.

<sarcasm>Well, that settles this little argument then, now doesn't it? </sarcasm>

<common_sense> Obviously, we understand the technical merits of the increased resolution. However, the simple fact of the matter is that the human eye has it's limitations. It's also been shown that most people who "claim" to see these huge differences, haven't done a proper side-by-side test with properly calibrated displays showing the same input source before making this decision.</common_sense>