Can someone explain this to me?

[tj1182]

I been a PC gamer for a few years. I just got a 360 and am playing it on 42' Panasonic Viera 720p TV with a resolution of 1024x768. From my PC days I would never play a game at this resolution, I always took a few FPS off to play it in high rez. I know the 360 supports 1080p resolution at 1920x1080 (or something like that) I noticed some jaggedness on my games, it looks like theres no Anti-Aliasing, but I'm sure there is and it's my TV and it's low resolution. Am I right?

My question is, am I getting screwed playing this in a lower resolution? Should I get a 1080p TV for full experience? I read on here and other places that there is no difference in the two when playing a 360. I just need some clarification.

[matchstick]

you wont see a diff between 1080 and 720 on 360 games, especially on a 42" TV (I have the same one). Also, I believe that the human eye cant tell the diff on a 42" either.
Here's a little more info on it.

[tj1182]

So I would only see a difference with a 52' and up? So basically the jaggedness in my games are normal? I guess it ain't worth the extra $2K for a 1080p TV.

[Deathwish238]

Originally Posted by tj1182

I been a PC gamer for a few years. I just got a 360 and am playing it on 42' Panasonic Viera 720p TV with a resolution of 1024x768. From my PC days I would never play a game at this resolution, I always took a few FPS off to play it in high rez. I know the 360 supports 1080p resolution at 1920x1080 (or something like that) I noticed some jaggedness on my games, it looks like theres no Anti-Aliasing, but I'm sure there is and it's my TV and it's low resolution. Am I right?

My question is, am I getting screwed playing this in a lower resolution? Should I get a 1080p TV for full experience? I read on here and other places that there is no difference in the two when playing a 360. I just need some clarification.

No it has nothing to do with your HDTV and its resolution. Notice that 1024x768 is a fullscreen resolution yet your Panny is widescreen. For whatever reason, 42" plasmas have used rectangular pixels for quite some time. Things look normal though because of its video processor.

Yes 1080p is a waste of money since there is no visible difference when watching 1080p content on either a 1080p or 720p resolution HDTV.


Pretty much all 360 games are rendered at 720p(as if you set the game's resolution to 1280x720 on a PC). That signal is then outputted from your 360 to your HDTV. The HDTV will very rarely introduce jaggies or other artifacts, that's done by the game's FSAA and what not.

The 360 is powerful, but some games do have jaggies from limited FSAA at the higher resolution.


Panasonic makes an excellent plasma and one of the best HDTVs on the market. Calibrate it and happy gaming.

[tj1182]

Thank you for the detailed response.

I see in your sig you have the exact same TV as I do. How do you have it set up? I never changed the color or anything and have it at factory defaults.

[Deathwish238]

These are my settings. I used settings off the avs-forum as a start and then used DVE to tweak them as needed.

Panasonic TH-42PX75U


Picture:

Normal: No
Picture Mode: Custom
Picture: +22
Brightness: +4
Color: -2
Tint: -1
Sharpness: -30
Color Temp: Warm
Color Mgmt: Off

Other Adjust:

Video NR: off
MPEG NR: Off
Black Level: Light

[tj1182]

Thanks, I'll give these a try tonight.

[imdave]

Originally Posted by Deathwish238

No it has nothing to do with your HDTV and its resolution. Notice that 1024x768 is a fullscreen resolution yet your Panny is widescreen. For whatever reason, 42" plasmas have used rectangular pixels for quite some time. Things look normal though because of its video processor.

I've seen that a few times, Plasma TVs with 1024x768. I always assumed it was a misprint and the resolution was 1366x768 or something. Learn something new everyday.

[Deathwish238]

I don't quite get why they don't just make 1280x720 or 1366x768 42" plasmas. I mean...if we can cram 1920x1080 cells into a 42"...we should be able to get in the other standard 720p resolutions