Left 4 Dead 2 Banned in Australia - Page 3

No1Mugster · 09-17-2009, 10:03 AM

Something to do with the AU classification board not giving games anything over a 15 certificate.

So it's technically not banned, it just can't be classified.

**jimmy_Bish** · 09-17-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by No1Mugster

Something to do with the AU classification board not giving games anything over a 15 certificate.

So it's technically not banned, it just can't be classified.

Exactly right. If it's unable to meet M15+ or under then it's rated RC (Refused Classification). It's illegal to sell an unclassified game in Australia, and recently they began cracking down on game importers as well.

All this is held back because of one politician in South Australia. For some reason our senate needs a 100% affirmative vote to pass the law and add the classification. So literally it's down to one man who refuses to vote for it.
His reasoning is that parents in Australia pay no attention to ratings as it is, so letting in games which are more adult than existing games would only make matters worse.

And the stupid thing is that I actually agree with him. As stupid as the lack of an R18 game is, nobody follows it anyway. Buying adult rated games for kids is one of my pet hates. In Australia, it literally ruins it for the rest of us.

EDIT: My theory is the fact limbs can be dismembered. They have strict rules and circumstances when it comes to that. No game is allowed to dismember limbs from a living character or after they've died (as in shooting a dead body to chop it up). The only time limbs can be removed is during the process of killing the character.

No1Mugster · 09-17-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy_Bish

Exactly right. If it's unable to meet M15+ or under then it's rated RC (Refused Classification). It's illegal to sell an unclassified game in Australia, and recently they began cracking down on game importers as well.

All this is held back because of one politician in South Australia. For some reason our senate needs a 100% affirmative vote to pass the law and add the classification. So literally it's down to one man who refuses to vote for it.
His reasoning is that parents in Australia pay no attention to ratings as it is, so letting in games which are more adult than existing games would only make matters worse.

And the stupid thing is that I actually agree with him. As stupid as the lack of an R18 game is, nobody follows it anyway. Buying adult rated games for kids is one of my pet hates. In Australia, it literally ruins it for the rest of us.

EDIT: My theory is the fact limbs can be dismembered. They have strict rules and circumstances when it comes to that. No game is allowed to dismember limbs from a living character or after they've died (as in shooting a dead body to chop it up). The only time limbs can be removed is during the process of killing the character.

You know what must be done about the man?

**jimmy_Bish** · 09-17-2009, 10:14 AM

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You know what must be done about the man?

Yeah, because killing him will show Australia that gamers aren't a violent bunch, influenced by the games we play!

No1Mugster · 09-17-2009, 10:18 AM

I was going to say buy him a puppy to try and win him over. I guess you guys shouldn't be playing violent games.

**jimmy_Bish** · 09-17-2009, 10:22 AM

LOL, I was waiting for a response like that!

Niall · 09-17-2009, 10:46 AM

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I was going to say buy him a puppy to try and win him over. I guess you guys shouldn't be playing violent games.

that was smooth

1Nightmare1 · 09-17-2009, 11:30 AM

I might understand Germany not having this game but why Australia?! It's bunch of zombies anyway.

PS. Wholy shit, that's the biggest L4D 2 thread I have long seen, didn't know we had so many Ausies..

Mark · 09-17-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy_Bish

Exactly right. If it's unable to meet M15+ or under then it's rated RC (Refused Classification). It's illegal to sell an unclassified game in Australia, and recently they began cracking down on game importers as well.

All this is held back because of one politician in South Australia. For some reason our senate needs a 100% affirmative vote to pass the law and add the classification. So literally it's down to one man who refuses to vote for it.
His reasoning is that parents in Australia pay no attention to ratings as it is, so letting in games which are more adult than existing games would only make matters worse.

And the stupid thing is that I actually agree with him. As stupid as the lack of an R18 game is, nobody follows it anyway. Buying adult rated games for kids is one of my pet hates. In Australia, it literally ruins it for the rest of us.

EDIT: My theory is the fact limbs can be dismembered. They have strict rules and circumstances when it comes to that. No game is allowed to dismember limbs from a living character or after they've died (as in shooting a dead body to chop it up). The only time limbs can be removed is during the process of killing the character.

In CoD:WaW can't you shoot up a dead body with a light machine gun and dismember it?
I know it can be done to living charcters, but I don't remember if it can be done with dead ones.

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I was going to say buy him a puppy to try and win him over. I guess you guys shouldn't be playing violent games.

Seggi · 09-22-2009, 11:27 PM

*Infinity.

Seriously, the only people that care about this kind of stuff are hardcore churchies with too much power for their own good.

This guy is a dick.

Michael Atkinson, and he's the guy Jimmy Bish referenced.

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He is a strong supporter of internet-censorship, and is responsible for maintaining Australia's status as one of the few Western countries without an "Adults Only" rating for video games, despite overwhelming demand for such a rating.
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He has withdrawn his support for a discussion paper and public consultation on the subject of an "R18+" rating

He's an ignorant moron who can't understand that people have a freedom to choose. Legally, no, I couldn't purchase these R-rated games (although don't think that would stop me...), but when I come of age, as a proud gamer, I don't want to be living in a country that denies my culture as abhorrent, or something to be ashamed of. What I am ashamed of, is the way the higher powers in this country sp frequently reject gaming, and those who place it in high esteem as an activity, as lesser to their precious routined and constricting lives.

What I'm ashamed of is the fact that such ignorant people can be assigned such influential roles.

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It's like those who govern have just noticed that games aren't like PONG anymore, and are so ashamed by their ignorance that they reach for legislation when there's already a system in place...