Should I buy a wii for the sake of it?

[lacklusta dj]

Originally Posted by jogara

I understand what you mean, and i agree that there are also remakes on ps3/360. However, things like halo/mgs/dmc are simply continuing a story. things like ffxiii is diffrent because every single ff is diffrent characters and plot. Unlike GTA and CoD that aren't bringing anything new to the table. I can understand don't fix what isn't broken, but in the case of mario i think it is broken. I can tell you exactly what happens in every single mario game almost without even playing it. What i'm asking for is nintendo to actually try and come up with something new.

As far as the child/adult argument i have to say i believe that it is more of a under 15 system. Granted an adult can be entertained by the wii just like a adult can be entertained by bejeweled for some unknown reason. Where on something you find on the 360/ps3 you might have to actually use your mind not just finger dexterity to accomplish your goal.

If you want to entertain guest just buy guitar hero or something along those lines...

Forgive poor spelling/punctuation in a rush today.

see mario games aren't really supposed to be about the story though. not all games are. some games are just about core gameplay. that's always been mario's thing and that's why it has been so successful. the new mario game pushes platform gaming to an entirely new level and the sales reflect this new plateau in gaming. super mario galaxy is anything but broken. it is the game of the year for 2007, and most established gaming websites will tell you that.

i think the thing about the wii is that it has a lot of applications that you have to use your mind. hence the sales to adults and the elderly. it is the most adult console on the market. most adults are more inclined to sit down for a round of trivia or brain excercises or even bowling than they are to figure out the buttons on the latest first person shooter. most adults don't care about blood spattering and course language. they want to be stimulated by other means - the thinking.

look at brain age for the ds. it's one of the top 20 games in sales of ALL time. that's representative of an older market tapping into the gaming realm.

[B-Cat77]

Originally Posted by marX

So far I ordered an HD component cord

Why?? Didn't think the Wii supported HD...

I've bought the Wii for my Son and he loves it, his Mum loves it and so far I find it quite enjoyable too.

I also have the 360 and PS3 and to be truthful I haven't even really played my PS3 - too many games on 360 to complete lol.

[marX]

Originally Posted by dan220877

Why?? Didn't think the Wii supported HD...

I know it doesn't support HD, but the jump in resolution with a component cord opposed to the regular AV jacks is a pretty big difference {at least to me}. I got component cords for my original Xbox and it made a big difference in sharpness, when I switched back to the AV cords it looked dull. I only paid 7 bucks for the Wii cord so I have no problem with that.

A long time ago I bought a VGA adapter for my Dreamcast and it was the best thing I bought for that system, it made everything look immensely better.

[B-Cat77]

I see - nice one!!

[marX]

Now that have my Wii {I've had it for 2 days} the component cord gives you the option to run GC games in 480p, so that’s pretty sweet.
I started playin the first Prime {which still holds up pretty well}
As for the system, I'm liking it a lot, I've been insanely busy so I haven't had much time with it, but so far, so like

A lot of people complain about the "kiddie" games, but going through the list there are plenty of adult games that seem pretty intriguing, the system gets a bad wrap {this fact includes the large list of GC games}.

Is Nintendo the only game company that has a mascot?...I know Master Chief is an exclusive, yes he represents the xbox, but I don't consider him a mascot for some reason.

[holesome]

I'm a long time collector and game player with an extensive game collection ranging from the Magnavox Odyssey to the Wii and XBOX360. Being able to have systems side by side and put them through tests can be entertaining and educational but can also produce very opinionated and picky players.

For the new buyer of a single game system household it's a good idea to pick a system that suites the game play style of the players. Often it's a good idea to stick with a system that is owned and played by other family and friends as long as the general consensus a positive experience. Having like systems allows for good communication regarding game progress/successes, game exchanges, perhaps a bit of good hearted competition, multi-player (in the house and external over the internet) gaming which is a large factor, and more. Also, constant negative feedback regarding system differences can have a negative impact on the gaming experience as these systems have partially become a status symbol.

Unless you a system collector or have plenty of money to spend on whatever you desire I'd stay far away from getting a game system from the two, what I would call different generation systems, Wii and the XBOX360/PS3. Placing these systems in the same household will cause a shift from the Wii to the XBOX360/PS3 platform if games of similar style are available on both. In the end you may find as I've experienced that the Wii is only used for a brief moment when a good new game comes out and then sits powered off the rest of the time.

In the case of a pro-Wii family/friends gaming network the Wii can be alot of fun for playing together with a group with a wide spread in age. Certain Nintendo game styles are well known throughout all ages making it easier for all to relate. Games like Zelda, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime, simple sports games and more have always been enjoyable to me as well.


Back to the nature of the almost discontinued use of the Wii in my family... it seems this is a result of many factors for which I will list but a few.

- too much selection...
This household has too much of a selection of games causing only the cream of the games to get the majority of the game play time. Having a wide selection of games to choose from doesn't make a good game system. The Wii gaming platform has been swamped by butchered ported games and new but very poor games. At best a 1 in 10 good to very poor ratio. On the upside game prices on the Wii are less then on the XBOX360/PS3. There must be a drive to lure us to play the less attractive games which brings me to the next point.

- a gauge of progress…
XBOX360 managed to implement an interesting way to keep track of game progress and game goals by way of Achievements. Similarly the PS3 is offering Trophies? These achievements offer an incentive to continue playing or replaying a game and in some sense a way to know when to stop playing them. I've seen old games brought out that are not up to the standards of latest release games but never-the-less they are played from beginning to end. These achievements are viewed by friends and family and both for curiosity and as an extra competitive incentive to go back and continue. It's not enough to just play for the sake of playing any more!

- graphic resolution and clarity...
Having HD TVs without HD resolutions is not advisable. Exact same games played side by side on the Wii and the XBOX360 show how poor a low-rez image is from the wii and how crystal clear an HD image is from the XBOX360. The reduced image quality and landscape on the Wii from any prolonged play can be one source of eye strain, headaches, and even resulting players frustration. On the flip side don't run an XBOX360 on a non HD TV.

- controllers...
Although the use of the Wii controllers enhances certain game play its use is overrated and over implemented. Most games do not need and should never be adapted to use the Wii style of controllers. Nintendo and the Wii game manufacturers have attempted to adapt all game styles to use these controllers causing good games to be very poor and some not worth attempting to play as a result. The typical controller style that has proven itself over time is in use by XBOX/PS3 and countless other gaming systems. In addition from experience I've found continued use of the Wii controllers to be tiring and even causing repetitive strains.

- the Cutesy feel can be too much...
Although the cute Nintendo feel with constant background music can start out being calming I've found that too much of that childish environment can annoy users of all ages. A neutral environment for all ages seems to work much better not alienating kids nor driving away the adults.


To sum it up...As my now 7 year old son states with such emotion, "The Wii Sucks Dad!", as he makes his way to the XBOX360…my 11 year old plays with the NDS more than the Wii…my 13 year old went and bought his own XBOX360 as he wasn't able to get enough play time and his network of school friends all have one…my wife prefers to play Party Poker even though I originally got the Wii for her…and I prefer the XBOX360 for all the above reasons.


With all that said I truly believe that fun can come from any game and game system and we should look to the players to create fun no matter what they are doing and not to the game writers and game system manufacturers to try and tell us we are having fun.

Sincerely,
Lorn (Gamertag: Holesome)

[marX]

Way to have an opinion Holesome...
You still have your Odyssey hooked up {lol} I have no idea where mine is. me and my friends had the talking adapter and spent countless hours making it curse...Oh the good times.

I read your whole post, respect and understand your opinion. My view point on the subject {being the expert I am having my Wii for a couple of weeks} is get a 360 first...But the Wii is a good fun piece of equipment. I would put RE4 Wii edition up against anything on the 360. I'm not saying its better but it rightfully deserves to stand next to those games. I'm sure Metroid is going to be the same level of greatness when I get to it.

You're also 100% right on social networking games...I usually buy a bunch of games that my friends don't play anyway, but I do buy some games that I normally wouldn't play just to play with them.
Since I bought my Wii I've been trying to free my self from the chains of Achievement points so I can get back to enjoying games for the sake of it again.

Right now I'm looking into getting Gamecube games that I missed out on for one reason or another {like the Resident evil collection, Mega Man X collection, and Sonic Adventure 1 & 2}. What the Wii has that the Xbox doesn't have well is it's Backwards compatibility, there is a nice catalogue of GC games that are pretty good {and ridiculously cheep}; I can play all the Prince of Persia games if I so choose. Right now I'm playing through Killer7 and enjoying it a lot.

I don't really have a point to my post except that I am feeling good about my Wii purchase {I've had some good 3-player Red Steel matches}, and to anybody that would like to broaden there game playing experience check out a Wii, it's not all Mario and Zelda.

[holesome]

The Odyssey is sitting on a shelf waiting for me to plug it back in. It will be waiting a long time I suppose. Sorry Odyssey.

Kid Talk on the Atari ST was loads of greeat. Always fun trying to get those old text-to-speech programs to say "...as she took the meat-stick in her...".

Achievement can be addictive and frustrating and should not be used as the sole driving force to get people to play games. A good game doesn't need achievements while it's new and in the spot light, however, when the games get older we often need something to turn our heads and take another look at the game on the bottom of the ever growing stack. With over 800 XBOX1 games I have, and have samples/played a magority of them, I'd rather pull out an old game with achievements than one with no achievements at all. Achievements give me a reminder of what I've done in the past and perhaps what I should be looking to do in the future.
In addition, game developers should try and create achievements as a guiding light, goal, or progress report for gamers, instead of just a number.

I haven't yet gotten a Gamecube as my Wii runs the GC games so it's been low on my priority of aquisitions.

I don't look consider backward compatibility an issue in my environment and would rather play the XBOX1 game on the XBOX1, the PS2 games on the PS2, etc. to tell you the truth. I guess backwards compatibility could be an issue when you are upgrading from GC to Wii or XBOX1 to XBOX360 but if you have the older system just use it for backward compatibility. If you've changed platforms then you would most likely not be going back to play old system games anyways.

As the Wii and XBOX360/PS3 are of different catagories they both have a place in the gaming world however they probably should not be placed in the same home at the same time without dissapointment.

I'm glad you are having fun with the Wii.

[ProjectCamaro]

I was in the same boat as you. I had decided to buy a nice HD TV and an Xbox 360 Elite. I wasn't sure if I wanted to get a Wii or not but I ended up buying one when I went to the store.
I play my 360 a whole lot more but whenever anyone comes over you better believe it's the Wii that always get's the nod. Overall the 360 is a much better system but I really enjoy it when I'm playing it by myself or on live. When I have friends at my place nothing compares to the Wii. Nothing.